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Reframing Paul: Conversations in Grace & Community

 
 
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Manufacturer: InterVarsity Press
EAN (European Article Number): 9780830815708
Number of Items: 1
 
 
Binding: Paperback
Author: Mark Strom
Publisher: InterVarsity Press
Dewey Decimal Number: 225.92
Publication Date: 2000-11
Reading Level: 255
 
 
Description: The Greco-Roman world was shaped by ideals and abstract ideas. The apostle Paul left them behind. But they continue to shape evangelical teaching and practice.

This picture contradicts the common impression of Paul as an abstract theologian, someone who wrestled with deep theological doctrine while hovering six feet above everyday reality. But in fact, it was the philosophers of Paul's day--and even some of Paul's Christian opponents--who traded heavily in abstractions, one-way rhetoric and top-down hierarchies while depreciating the currency of everyday reality. By contrast, Paul the tentmaker was a conversationalist of God's Good News, a storyteller of Jesus Christ, an apostle who walked the avenues and back alleys of everyday reality. His passion was for communities of grace and conversation where the new reality of Christ was explored and embodied within the daily messiness of life.

Reframing Paul unveils this Paul in his original context and invites us to engage him in new terms. Courageously it draws Paul into vital conversation with contemporary evangelicalism. This is a book for those who wonder why people leave churches for alternative spiritual paths--and who may even be tempted to do so themselves. More than anything, it's for those who wonder what's gone wrong and want to learn from Paul how the church can be an attractive community of transforming grace and conversation.

"If you are concerned about the way the Bible is sometimes taught today, and sense that something is not quite right with some parts of evangelicalism, this is the book for you! Carefully researched and penetratingly argued, Mark Strom brings Paul, his culture and the contemporary church into dynamic and unsettling conversation. He shows that too much that goes on among conservative Christians reflects the attitudes and practices of the culture of Paul's day rather than of Paul himself." Robert Banks, director and dean, Macquarie Christian Studies Institute, Sydney, Australia

"In Reframing Paul, Mark Strom brings Paul's writings back in touch with life as he intended. In doing so, Strom challenges much contemporary theology and church life. Interpreters of Paul and those interested in the future of the evangelical church need to read this important and engaging book." Tremper Longman III, Robert H. Gundry Professor of Biblical Studies, Westmont College

"Mark Strom's presentation of Paul is a service to anyone interested in the New Testament, for it clarifies Paul's message by putting it into its setting and gives one readable access to Paul's world. His critique of the evangelical church is challenging . . . . Important reading for those interested in understanding Paul and must reading for those thinking about how to do church in our contemporary world." Peter H. Davids, theological educator, Innsbruck, Austria

"This wide-ranging book includes an extensive reading of ancient sources and their best commentators, hermeneutical considerations on how to relate Paul's grappling with his setting to our analogous settings today, and a challenge to today's church to rethink our values and models in light of Scripture. Strom challenges us to ask ourselves whether the way we've always done things is the only (or even a correct) biblical way-a challenge we need to always readily consider." Craig S. Keener, professor of New Testament at Eastern Seminary

 
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Review Summary: Challenging yet overly radical at times Date: 2008-07-13
 
Details: ****NOTE I edited this review after some good thought about the book, My rating is now 3.5 out 5 instead of 5 out of 5***

I first heard of Mark strom through a series of lectures he did at BCNZ, entitled Wine Skin talks - I went to his 3rd set of talks called "Theology for Life: Text soul and Culture - An integrated approach" The talks were eye openers; so refershing and liberating.

I hesitated to get this book because I feel there is an over emphasis on the Pauline Corpus. He may have written some of the most profound letters but He drew on the whole old testament for his thinking. The whole story only made sense to him in the Dying and Rising of Jesus Christ. This was the fufillment of the story, the climax of history. Paul tried to let this works it way out into every facet of life.

What I liked about this book was that it challenged the conventional ideas we hold about church. Why does so much of the service leave us passive and bored? Why is there only one person who speaks for an hour and then people who don't like what he has to say write letters to him later? Why does our concept of church look so different to what happeend in the New Testament. If anything Strom's books encourage (force) me to rethink my presuppositions and re-evaluate what I think I know about scripture and church. Mark is Big on story, and big on Christian liberty.
I found his own personal stories at the back very helpful, the first section on the philosophers and primary reality etc I had to skip - it was way over my head. (My pastor who has a masters in theology said he had to skip that section too because it was too deep)

So often what we experience in our Christian subcultures echoes more of the Rank and Status conventions of the Graeco Roman than with Jesus and Paul.

The New Testament "church" should not be held up as an authority for us to judge ourselves by, but it is helpful in noticing where we echo Corinth as opposed to Paul. I think if we take the principles of being spontaneous and not trying to maintain status quo or enforce our "rank" on other believers we could end up with some truly spectacular Grace Full Conversations and a more integrated approach to faith and everyday life.

For so long as a believer I thought my only way to serve God was to escape and withdraw from public life. To put a hedge around myself and guard against every outside influence from the world. But Paul worked differently - and my way of thinking had more to do with the abstract ideals of the philosophers of old.

This book challenged me in so many ways. When Paul says "to live is Christ and to die is gain." Do I really mean those words when I say them? Do I live like that? Am I reframing my life around the dying and rising of Christ? How would my life be different if I did?
For all the theology I have learnt, how much of it has changed how I behave. Theology was never meant to exist in a vaccum or be just abstract principles or amorphisms. It is meant to be lived. In my own life I want to have many more Grace full conversations, centred around the person of Jesus, and finding ways to integrate that truth into my everyday life.

But what I didnt like about the book was that it challenged the traditional understanding of Church a little too much. At times it seemed like Marks bad experiences got the better of Him. It seemed like he allowed a "grudge" he may have held to manifest itself in a desire to change everything instead of open hostility. There is nothing wrong with the traditional Church as long as it exalts Jesus as Lord. Perhaps Mark could have talked more about the need to submit to authority and the use of Home groups outside of Church as a way of engaging in the Graceful conversation?

At times the book was so radical that i felt uncomfortable. Mark complained about having to ask for permission to do things within the Church from leadership. If leaders are there to maintain order within the Church seeking permission is just a matter of respect. Church is not there to meet all our needs and we are not there to make Church whatever we want it to be. Its there to Exalt Jesus as Lord and spread the good news to all nations, tribes and tongues. Its done this way for order. No doubt that order has been abused in the past, but abuse does not make it wrong.

The Church is still the only way people get to hear the Gospel regularly. Its the only place where believers gather together to hear the good news, and worship our King. It is for us as much as for God. Perhaps we should work with what we have instead of throwing out the Baby with the bathwater?
 
Review Summary: A Daring Book . . . A Beacon of Hope Date: 2001-06-14
 
Details: A daring book has appeared at a precipitous moment in history. Mark Strom's Reframing Paul rushes to the rescue of modern churches hopelessly lost in a postmodern world. With rare exception, that's every church! We are still trying to see that the baggage dragging us down is our own culture-a culture more dependent on the classical tradition than on the Judeo-Christian. Whenever religion gets too close to culture, tragic ignorance prevails. With breathtaking clarity, Mark Strom reveals this cultural blindness to Paul's true message. Reframing Paul is a beacon of hope for the future.
 
Review Summary: Reframing Evangelical Practice? Date: 2001-06-12
 
Details: Mark Strom has written a critique of much current evangelical practice. He outlines the world Paul operated in, a world where elitism and abstraction ruled, he then shows how the apostle Paul challenged this world. His critique is that, ironically, much contemporary evangelical practice more closely resembles the world Paul was challenging than Paul himself. A challenge worth sitting up and listening to.
 
Review Summary: challenging if not comfortable Date: 2001-06-12
 
Details: Reframing Paul in my opinion is a good book - not a 'nice' or 'comfortable' book, but one worth reading, especially if you aspire to having a "Berean" spirit -which implies a willingness to have your ideas about the New Testament (NT) and church challenged. But there is also comfort in this book - it gave shape to my increasing unease (over the last ~ 15 years) about the gap between what the NT seems to say - and what we do, and assert as 'biblical'. I no longer feel quite as alone.

But the book is not easy going in some places (unless you are skilled in reading Graeco-Roman philosophy/history). Someone suggested to me this reading plan: " Read chap 1, then 18, then skip 2-3 (or even 2-5), read the rest (feel free to skip around) and come back to the early ones last. They are important context setting, but a bit tough".

But where to from here? The book does not offer easy solutions. (As a former Australian Prime Minister said: "Life wasn't meant to be easy" ;-) By the way, I admired the author's transparency/willingness to be vulnerable. I think that adds to the book. A book read by humans - a book written by a human.

 
Review Summary: Playing Church Date: 2001-06-09
 
Details: A helpful book which has emphasised for me how often we are really "playing church" instead of "being church". It has also been helpful in trying to sort out issues of pragmatic concern as oppossed to issues of the fundamental nature of church. For status quotarians, it is a scary proposition that is raised by Mark, but then we are not called to the staus quo but to real life in Christ expressed in openess and "grace-full conversations". A real challenge for us in our western society who like the anonymity of individualism.

A simplified format (study guide????) would be useful for those to whom the current format is daunting or inaccessable.

 
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