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If Grace is True: Why God Will Save Every Person

 
 
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Manufacturer: HarperOne
EAN (European Article Number): 9780062517050
Number of Items: 1
 
 
Binding: Paperback
Author: Philip Gulley::James Mulholland
Publisher: HarperOne
Dewey Decimal Number: 234
Publication Date: 2004-12-01
Reading Level: 240
 
 
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Why Everyone Will Be in Heaven

Two pastors present their controversial belief in eternal salvation for all through God's perfect grace. Long disturbed by the Church's struggle between offering both love and rejection, they discover what God wants from us and for us: grace for everyone.

 
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Review Summary: Great argument for Christian universalism Date: 2008-04-05
 
Details: This book is a very "kind and gentle" argument for Christian universalism. Highly recommended for those whose childhood Christian ideology no longer seems to fit.
 
Review Summary: A good boook Date: 2008-03-08
 
Details: Mr Muholland and Mr. Gulley really explain God to me in a way I can relate to. Hell fire and brimstone have really never made sense to me. Life is NOT black and White. We are all shades of gray.
 
Review Summary: wonderful Date: 2008-01-30
 
Details: I always had doubts about hell; it didn't make any sense that God could love unconditionally and still sentence someone to eternal suffering. This book helped me to realize that I was not the only one with these thoughts and expanded the ideas I already had. Well written and easy to read.
 
Review Summary: The Blessed light Date: 2007-12-15
 
Details: Do yourself a favor and do not buy this book. No, don't even read it. I made the mistake of thinking the authors were Christians (as we define them by being followers of Christ, acknowledge God as the one TRUE God) but they are not. I quickly realized they were using the Bible as a way to justify universalism. Sorry. You can't take some of the Bible and throw out the rest. God grace is available to all, but not all will accept it. And there is only ONE way to the Father. No, God won't send any to Hell, but if we do not choose to accept Him, we send ourselves there.
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Review Summary: This book is so simple and so good! Date: 2007-10-28
 
Details: I believe that the original word of God is inspired (i.e. the Hebrew and Greek) - but I now believe that the translations of the bible are of the flesh and some are more "flesh" than others. It took me 20 years to figure this out though.

Back when I believed the King James was "THE" translation I was a young dumb Christian and kind of liked the idea that "spiritual losers" would burn in "hell". I was smart and read the bible, why should cult members and losers get into heaven anyway? They were self made men so to speak - they brought it on themselves I'd reason.

Then as I grew older problems crept into my theology by the truckload. I will say this - I wanted to know "the truth". So I was and am always willing to revise my beliefs as I learn and mature. Being a computer programmer I started dabbling in making my own versions of the bible (with software of course). And one program I wrote was to make my own concordance. So I mapped out every Greek and Hebrew word to every English word in the King James bible (back then that was the version you could get in ASCII) and lo and behold the King James translated many different Greek and Hebrew words into the same English words! And many of those words weren't even related. Hell was a good example but there are many others. (look up Gehenna, Hades, and Tarturus).

Then I learned about something called the law of Jubilee which means that at some point Jesus (our Kinsmen redeemer) will redeem all his near relatives and buy them back from the devil. That's why Jesus became a man. So at some point in time everything Adam lost (us) comes back to God (See Creations Jubilee by Stephen Jones). Another fun trick I taught my family was whenever you meet a hell fire preacher ask them about the law of Jubilee. No one who believes in an eternal hell will ever know about the law of Jubilee. They CAN'T! You're tank can only be full of love or hate. Not both. My wife and daughter went to a street fair last week. My daughter is twelve and she saw a hell fire preacher with the megaphone haranguing the people at the fair. My daughter went up to him and asked him about the law of Jubilee. The people who took her aren't Christian and told her not to go. They were afraid. Very afraid. But she knew where he was coming from. He had no clue about the law of Jubilee. then my daughter told him about it. I understand he actually "listened" to her. Conversion through fear of Hell is just fire insurance. God wants a loving relationship with us. "God is love" is a common theme in the bible. God is holy is where the "refiners fire" comes in. If you mix love and fire you get a purified human race EVENTUALLY! And that's what I believe the bible teaches. Then ALL the verses in the bible Harmonize. Try that experiment though. Ask any hell fire preacher you meet about the law of Jubilee (you should learn it yourself of course) and they'll say the Jubilee? Not really. Because I've never heard a sermon about this yet in 20 years. Then again I've never seen a blind person healed either or a whithered arm restored either.

Eternal Hell comes from lame translations of the bible. Anyone who puts their trust in a translation of the bible will run into trouble. It's no different than a Jew trusting the Talmud or a Catholic trusting the Catechism, or a Jehovoah's Witness trusting the New World Translation. If you don't read Hebrew and Greek (which I don't) get a good Interlinear bible and show yourself well approved unto God (2 Ti 2:15). You can only blame the powers that be at your church for so long. Eventually you need to take responsibility for your own spiritual growth.

Hellfire teaching depends on having certain translations of the bible to support your views (the King James being the main target). But redemption of all mankind by a kinsmen redeemer is in the law in Lev 25 and it's really simple. Rich relatives must buy back poor relatives from bondage. That's why Jesus is called a redeemer. And what's more it's not even by choice of either relative. The rich relative MUST do it. So there's really not much freewill involved for either party. Ask Paul. A strange thing happened to him on the way to Damascus. Jesus didn't say "Paul, by your own freewill would you like to be my apostle to the Gentiles..." Jesus said, "Guess what Paul you've been fighting me and now you're my apostle to the gentiles. You'll be blind for 3 days then you'll get to work for me. Have a nice day." So Jesus just needs to repeat this process a few billion times and voila! I'm being facetious but you get the point. The Greek word Helkuo used in John 6:44 means that God will "drag" us all to himself like Paul. And like a fish on a line you can put up a fight but the fisherman is Christ and you won't get away.

Also 1 Timothy 4:10 where it says that God will save ALL men ESPECIALLY those that believe. How could that be true? Hell will be empty then! No!!!!

Seriously -- this book's author went through the same cognitive dissonance that I had. God is love but he roasts the spiritually retarded eternally. Or God is "Just" so for 100 years of sin he'll repay you with an ETERNITY of damnation in a burning fire. How is that fair anyway?

It doesn't add up. I told my pastor that I thought all mankind will be saved EVENTUALLY! And now he thinks I said that all men go to heaven as soon as they die no matter what. That's not it though. The key word is Eventually. We have various judgments and resurrections going on and the Feast of Tabernacles is all about restoring the knowledge of God's word. That feast will come during the millennium or feast era. It's not here yet that's why there's such much spiritual darkness and tradition still taught.

The only thing in the book that I didn't agree with was where the author doesn't think that God will injure people then heal them. Because then he would be like a parent with Munchausen's syndrome. I didn't agree because I think there is a Godly purpose to the suffering God inflicts unlike the Munchausen's parent. The Author uses the example of the Jews asking whose sin caused the blind man to be blind. Then Jesus says it's for the glory of God. The author says God doesn't just injure to heal to get credit for healing like a Munchausen's parent. I understand (from the scriptures) that God's "refining fire" is suffering. And he uses tribulation to "burn off" our flesh nature. So the suffering, which God allows (or is responsible for), is, in the long run, to bring Glory to God through a mankind with a Godly character. That's why the Kingdom has 12 gates made of 1 giant pearl each. The pearls are symbolic of suffering because they are produced in an ugly shell and over a lifetime produce something beautiful and precious inside. So the "pearly gates" represent entrance into God's Kingdom through a lifetime of quiet suffering under water. So there is a purpose to God's inflicting wounds on us (or at least allowing them be afflicted) and it's not for God to get attention when he heals us but to produce Godly character in us.

But the spiritual metamorphosis this Author goes through in this book from spiritual pride and arrogance to that of Godly love flowing through him into world will happen to all Christians eventually as they leave spiritual infancy and move into spiritual maturity.

Awesome book!

 
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